of all I just want to congratulate you on your new album.
To new fans could you please fill us in on the history
behind it all?
Ruins - Thanks.
Ruins have been slowly evolving over a few years now. We are
primarily a two-piece; I and Dave Haley are the two members of
Ruins thus far in our writing and recording efforts. We have
however begun rehearsing with a couple of others to comprise a
live band. Our first release was the “Atom and Time” Mini-CD
through Blacktalon media, released in 2004, and now “Spun Forth
as Dark Nets” our debut album has been released by Neurotic
did you get your name RUINS?
I always wanted something to the point and sharp, probably a
single word… the sort of word that will be uttered constantly
regardless of referring to our band. Now it always makes me smile
anytime someone says the word RUINS, or RUINed, or RUINing. This
music comes from the RUINS of my mind. Its development began on
RUINS of past bands. It is made of my experiences, the RUINS of my
life. And on the other hand, out of the creation, the construction…
there is of course the destructive intent….The ghastly and
haunting, meditative place that we try to touch with our music
that should indeed RUIN everything!
would you describe your music for an outsider?
I try to refrain from doing so. I usually avoid a situation where
I must deal in categorization to explain myself, so I guess to be
descriptive of the atmosphere alone and not just go calling it
some kind of heavy metal or another…I don’t know, I guess it
also depends what you mean by outsider?
You mean someone who hasn’t heard…I am lead to thinking
of those who do hear, and do not understand. I would tell this
outsider; well actually this outsider might more likely tell me
that my music is dark, insane, haunting, eerie and cold with the
meaning that these are not natural harmonious qualities, in some
attempt to criticize. And I say thank you very much, that is just
what I was after. Some people really are afraid of the dark.
I listen to, “Spun
as Dark Nets”, it sends chills down my spine… how did you
manage to create such a dark and very cold atmosphere, and who and
what inspires you when you write a song?
Ha-ha, thank you very much! The influences I channel into RUINS
are many and varied. Out of
the melancholy comes the depression, out of the depression comes
the disgust or resentment, out of this bitterness comes some
feeling of invulnerability, or something like a hardening, we have
swung back to order and control again over the chaos always
looming, here we have recognized so soon the eternal chaos, do you
feel the melancholy now….full circle, perpetual, all these
primal feelings. I really don’t know what to say to this
question, except perhaps that there is these places in my mind
that… well I am in the transient, or these darker places when
the music is coming into me or out of me. Again the darkness is of
course perfectly naturally occurring in all and everything, we are
just talking about shifting balance and so on, to be balanced is
to have this wheel turning at some comfortable and constant speed.
And I am only describing the reality of this dimension; I am
hugely influenced by out of body experiences.
When you do such things as summon certain states of mind to
command a feeling, or also linger and wallow in destructive
feelings to maximize their creative potential through the next
cycle, well this is to be quite unbalanced for times. For there to
be no danger in this, one must be relatively resilient… or
let’s say very self-aware perhaps… beyond this we really are
talking about magic, this is exactly where this should be too, the
black metal is so called because it is and should be the dark
arts. I believe this is what we have most in common with real
black metal, as opposed to any other stylistic influences.
you should suggest one single song to understand the full RUINS
music potential, which title would you choose and why?
This is difficult. I think one way to answer this would be for me
to point out that “Spun Forth as Dark Nets” can and perhaps
should be listened to in it’s entirety start to finish like one
long piece with eight small movements, this really does flow as
intended, this was very important to me in my processes of
construction. The songs should and do stand alone, but in relation
to one another, that is their sequence and they belong together in
that order. I think from “Atom and Time”, the song
“Winter” quite clearly illustrates many different directions
within our sound… pretty well rounded out in the one song; for
early material that is, you can see many ways we can go. But this
is old news compared to what we are up to at the moment. The new
stuff it is still Ruins no doubt, but construction has evolved
you feel that your sound will evolve in some different direction
in the future, or you will still follow the same path?
I guess I just answered this, but to elaborate… the answer is
yes to both parts of the question if this makes any sense. We are
still wandering the same path; we are just further along... It
doesn’t look entirely the same the whole way, but it is still
the same path.
has done the artwork? And
how important do you feel it is to have a great cover?
Lorenzo Mariani did the cover for us, whose work we had seen with
Dark Throne recently amongst others. We were very impressed with
his work for us… just what we had envisaged.
I feel it is important to complete the package to give more
of a picture of what it is you wish to convey, to give the
listener something more with which to interpret your ideas. And
also, just to make it all as an engaging experience as possible.
you have any touring plans?
Yes we plan to tour, but no, we have no plans… something very
soon I am sure!
speculate – you have been granted a free slot on a tour of your
own choice – who would be your ideal touring partners?
I really have no idea about this one? Just being on tour with the
guys I have gotten around me here to do RUINS… I’m thinking
these guys are my ideal touring partners in the first place, which
is very important if we are able to all travel and get along no
problems. I don’t know about other bands? The bands that I might
really like to see may well have their mystique ruined after 20
shows in as many days. This is difficult to know, it will remain
to be seen.
do you feel about the co-operation with your label?
All has been going well seemingly. I am more than impressed with
the efforts that have been made on behalf of us. Neurotic seems to
really do a good job of every facet from manufacture to market…
things I don’t like to even think about, and could never handle
to deal with, so the good work is greatly appreciated.
By the looks of it Ruud is a very busy man. Yeah so Ruud is
great but regarding co-operation, I think I’m just barely
meeting my end of the bargain ha-ha.
internet is a very important source for many metal fans – how do
you use the internet and how important is it for you and other
I must say my use until recently was very limited, but when one
form of communication or another is needed…. This here is
preferable to phone or regular post mail, just in terms of
immediacy mail-wise, and of course international phone rates are
ridiculous, so concerning a band organizing a tour or something…
well I guess it is all heaps more convenient, but this is the age
is it not? By the same measure we all got along fine without it
not that long ago!
how do you feel about the metal scene in general at the moment?
I don’t know what to tell you? I like a bunch of bands that
exist now in this time, too many to list really… so that is
pretty good. I have found stuff in the last few years that really
for me is just as important to me now as any of my musical
influences have been since birth; but to find these I have waded
through a lot of shit don’t worry. I cannot be bothered to have
some sort of senile jaded rip on all the current things I am
unimpressed with, once again more than you could imagine and where
would I start? And it really would only serve to mention some
drivel that does not warrant a mention.
name an album, person or event that has had a huge influence on
your life…and why?
This is really difficult to answer, simply because there are too
many seriously significant people and events in my life, and
albums… But actually, an album, a person, and an event…all in
one, I guess this could be when I was in early high school, my
friends older brother (person), played us all sorts of death, and
grind, and doom… etc amidst it all I heard ‘Soulside Journey’
(album) and felt this one was special right away… I guess that
was also (event), but perhaps more importantly, the person I am
talking about is now the band Striborg, and it was way back then
he was jamming with bands and so on, they were the older kids and
we young pups would sit in and watch… this is when I first
realized that I wanted to play my own stuff!
That was the thing, they were an original band, and then I
knew that this could be done… I already played guitar since very
young, but such an event as this helped me realize I could or
should make my own music.
are your favorite old and recent bands?
These questions are not getting any easier to answer, this is
again a really big one, I will have to be very ruthless and just
say a few otherwise this will go on forever. When I was a very
young kid Black Sabbath stood out more than anything in mother’s
collection, definitely AC/DC, this is really young. Then not too
much later a friend who was actually my neighbor, a fair bit older,
he was like my older brother really… he helped me a little
further along this same path with stuff like Iron Maiden, and then
Metallica and Slayer. SLAYER!
It was at this point I sought further aggression in the
music and became accustomed to this feeling of the search, and the
evolution of it all, I found myself stuff like Kreator.
Not much longer after this is the time I speak of
previously, when the real self awareness is beginning to happen
for me and so on, so, shit so many bands in the early 90’s, but
out of all of them I will again list Dark Throne. More recent
bands that have truly possessed me would include Weakling,
Leviathan… and Lurker of Chalice, Craft, and Portal. This is
barely even scraping the surface.
are you doing besides RUINS, job wise as well as hobbies?
I am chef and kitchen manager. Besides this RUINS takes much of my
time… or at least me wasting away on a guitar takes most my
time. I don’t know that I like to comment on my other pastimes
really, but most of them in some way influence what RUINS concerns
question – do you have any famous last words for our readers?
Become one with chaos.
Thanks for your time, and I wish you all the best of luck in the
future to come!